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Quarry Hill Creative Center in Rochester, VT, founded 1946 by Barbara and Irving Fiske, is Vermont's oldest alternative community and at one time was probably also its largest. In the 60s -80s, as many as 90 people lived here.
It was and is visited each year, often in summer (but in every season, really) by visitors from all over the world.
We welcome interesting and creative people who are peaceful, bring no weapons, don't believe in hitting children or killing animals, and enjoy the beauty of Vermont and of themselves.

Most of us do not adhere to any particular dogma or religion, though many do find Eastern philosophy closest to our own thought (some of us are also members of the Quakers/Society of Friends).
We value the individual, particularly people who are energetic and have a sense of humor.
Visitors are welcome-- and prospective residents, too. There are some places for rent, others for sale. If interested, get in touch!
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"The symbol is the enemy of the reality, and the reality is ever one's true guide, true friend, true companion, and true self." Irving Fiske, 1908-1990

Showing posts with label Irving Fiske. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Irving Fiske. Show all posts

Tuesday, September 24, 2019

IRVING  FISKE HAD NO NET WORTH!

Some "Celebrity" sites claim that Irving had between $100,000 and $14 MILLION when he died. 
He did not own anything. He never owned the land at Quarry Hill, which first belonged to my mother, Barbara Hall Fiske, and then to a family corporation, Lyman Hall, Inc.

 He had benefits from the government (social security, etc) and managed on almost nothing-- he had learned to do so during the Great Depression and preferred it. 

 He grew up in a very conventional, well-off  family who worked and made a lot of money. Irving did not enjoy this life and became a Boheman in the Village during the 1930s.
He wrote freelance articles and worked for the WPA, writing and editing the WPA Guide to New York City, as it is now called. 

 Irv shopped at thrift stores and wore very simple clothing. He had cloth shoes because he was a vegetarian verging on veganism.
He did observe the stock market and would sometimes invest small sums in commodities trading. This was fun for him, as his father had also been an "armchair investor," but it NEVER made him any dough.

He liked things to be simple.
He was NOT wealthy when he died.
There appears to be no way to correct these places which claim huge sums of mone for Irv. I would not be sorry if they were right-- but they aren't.

Ladybelle

Saturday, January 12, 2019

Barbara Hall, by Brian Cronin

https://www.cbr.com/barbara-hall-war-nurse-girl-commandos-blonde-bomber/I ran across this piece by pop culture and comics writer Brian Cronin for a site called CBR. This short piece is, by and large, the most accurate and detailed article about Barb I've seen. 
Of course, Trina Robbins'  books on the women cartoonists of the 1940s are a labor of love and give a very full picture of Barbara at this time. I think Mr. Cronin got a lot of his information from Trina.
But I'm delighted to see Barb becoming ever more well-known. She's outpacing Irv at this point. ( I hope to post some of his writing and some of the text  of one of his talks soon).
Have a look. Only a very few minot details are off.

https://www.cbr.com/barbara-hall-war-nurse-girl-commandos-blonde-bomber/

Friday, July 21, 2017

On the holy mountain

I have recently been thinking of Isaiah 11:9 and other passages in the Bible that speak of peace and fulfillment.
For my parents, Barbara Hall Fiske and Irving Fiske, the King James Bible was a kind of powerful poetry, with  some visionary truth contained in it. It was not a literal truth to them, but an artistic one.
Barbara painted tempera paintings with herself, Irving and Milton as figures from the Old and New Testaments, and they referred often to the parts that intersected with their vision of "a paradise for Souls"-- people who were incapable of living the conventional life.

The Bible passages that moved them (and often me)  the most were those that speak eloquently of peace  and a new Jerusalem, a beautiful new earth/heaven without pain and suffering, without killing or pain.

"They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain, for the earth shall be full with the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea."



This passage  was one of my mother Barbara's favorites.Such passages, in the King James Bible (the only one we considered worth reading) were like precious stones to my parents, and I usually agreed. 

These words of Isaiah spoke to the heart of Quarry Hill's point of view. Along with Blake's radiant and defiant poems, and the words of Melville's Moby Dick, it "spoke to our condition." When the place ran up against people wanting, not only to claim the land but to stake claim to QH's point of view, in 1999-2002, one of the things we could not stomach was the idea of a "mission statement." That as much as anything was what the situation foundered on. It was not the Fiskian way to bind the self with one idea, one thought, one point of view-- a way of being which often drove other people crazy. 

Yet, not as a commandment upon us but a vision of sanity , such passages as this one in Isaiah were a part of our deepest thought.
The Quarry Hill agreement, begun in my childhood and in effect through all the years and still today, is that here no one who is living or visiting here may strike, neglect, or verbally abuse children.  Animals are not hunted, and fish swim unmolested in the brook, the frogs in the pond.
No one raises animals to kill. 
Despite everything, the Great Divorce of the late 90s-early 2000s included, this vow has remained in place for 71 years, from April 10, 1946 to today.

Irving liked  Micah 4:4, which most people know:

" But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid..." Or as the song goes, "Every man neath his vine and fig tree, shall live in peace and unafraid."

This verse  had a special meaning for Irving. 

In his liitle brown cabin in the deep piney woods of the Ocala National Forest, a vine grew over the window of his miniscule bedroom. On the side of the cabin toward the lake he planted a little fig tree. And  there he lived, in peace and unafraid, and completely defiant of the Forest Rangers and the rednecks who, in the 1970s, had burned our earlier cabin down. 

(More to come)

Thursday, February 20, 2014

A TALE of Quarry Hill in the Elden Days

The month of melting snow. Even if the snow flies in at blizzard strength and lets us know it has not yet finished with our part of the Earth or ourselves, it is growing closer to the moment when snowdrops come up, poking out of places where the snow has slowly melted off, leaving a cave underneath which-- always amazing to me-- is filled with fragrant white flowers.

It is time for the Fish to turn the seasons towards spring and the gamboling lamb of Aries. Soon flowers will be everywhere (well, after mud season and after what one hopes will be a good sugaring season).   I am joyous in Pisces and Aries because it won't be long now before it is really spring, and the daffodils and other bulbs I planted last year will soon arise and grant a  benediction to all of us who had to or wanted to stay through the deep winter. (Even those who didn't can get in on the joy of spring.)

Wind, the voice  of Winter, whistles through the trees,  reminding  me of those days  when Quarry Hill was one of the largest communes or communities in the country-- certainly in New England.  I remember how hard winter was for many (it's not always easier now).  It is the oldest "hippie commune" in the eastern part of the country, as far as I know. Is there anyone out there with a community founded before 1946 and still going?

I remember the neediness, especially in winter,  of the mothers of young children in the "Old Days" at Quarry Hill (the 60s-80s), when we raised the children in four hour shifts, many of which were filled by new people, or people who had no children. Some new people were amazingly talented with kids.  Some whined and cried, little more than babies themselves-- these were probably not suited, at least then, to being with children; and I would usually say, "This person's not ready yet,"  or "I'm not sure this new person is into kids." (Sometimes, the desperate mother myself, because I had a daughter who never slept, I would try to force the issue and get helpers to be with my kid whether they were "right" for her or not, but I regretted it. My daughter usually ended it by saying "I  want my mommy."

But why did the mothers get angry? They were exhausted, the cabins heated by wood, and if there was no father for the child or if their Primary lover was with another, they felt overburdened quite a lot.  They  had to keep getting up and putting wood in the stove.  There's a special panic, not like anything else, exactly, in being the only person in a house heated by wood in the winter, with snow piled over the kitchen windows, and a baby, perhaps restless with a fever or cold or just not a very deep sleeper, dependent on one. 
The mother (and one or two  fathers, but there were not as many single fathers) awaited the morning... I believe the shift was 10 to 2 -- desperately watching  the old dusty clock go around while the baby whimpered.  The mother would be thinking: "God, I hope the helper is in a good head today!  I hope that my baby, little Starflower, or Joya, or Summer, Shaw, or Victor (for Bernard Shaw or Victor Hugo-- male boys were often named for literary figures or artists we admired, while girls received "nature" names much of the time) will play with S---- or J---- or M---- and let me sleep for a while!"
Then perhaps  the appointed hour would come around and no one would appear.
After waiting a long time, perhaps the mother would go out and yell to a neighbor to try to find out what happened to her helper, or might even dress and bundle her child (now perhaps not feverish, but wide awake and ready to play) up-- to find that the helper had forgotten, or was sick themselves, or had decided to go on a trip to see the Dalai Lama speak in Montreal or something of that sort. The whole message of the Dalai Lama, Compassion, would be forgotten in the excitement of going off on a jaunt to see him... or some other figure... or a band. Or perhaps the missing helper was merely still in bed with his or her lover of the moment and was not inclined to get up and help.
Perhaps the helper got up and came along to play, or perhaps the mother ran, irate and distraught, to Irving's cabin to weep and complain (and to be urged not to upset the child, to make her or him feel like a god or goddess, wanted and adored).   Most of the time the Kids List worked. 
We had drawn it from Aldous Huxley's last book, Island, in which the children were all part of a Mutual Adoption Club and, if they were not getting on with their parents-- or perhaps the parents became dangerously overstrained-- the children could go to another "parents'") home and stay with them for as long as it took for the anger in the family-- or whatever it might be-- to shift, alter, or end.
 Then the family,  at least in theory, could reunite.

A young woman named Debbie Venn  was, as I recall, the originator of the Kids' List-- the  adaptor of the Huxleyan vision for the single mothers of Quarry Hill. I wonder if she realized how much agony she was accepting when she began to collect names and match them to children and mothers who needed help. The Kids List inevitably became entangled with the love list (it really had no name that I remember), in which most women had a Primary lover, a Secondary one and perhaps a Tertiary one, which made sense, it seemed to me. That way the male parent had input to his child's upbringing. If he were not the biological father, he soon developed a deep attachment to the child of the woman he loved. (If he didn't, and was a competitive person with kids, he probably didn't stay very long. He didn't feel pampered enough.)  It also gave men the chance to interact with other children, the kids of his lovers, and it widened the horizens of us all. The kids often had fun with these young men who were just learning to care for children and were only a few years away from childhood themselves. There were also young women who came to help, and this deepened the relationship between and among the women... most of the time.

Now the children are grown. Some percentage of them have problems, as who does not? But most are rare and talented and attractive young people with vivid thought and opinion of their own. Many have fascinating professions-- stunt man, makeup artist, psychotherapist, and so on. I admire them all. Mostly,  what I appreciate is that they are close to one another and caring of one another in a way that is rare among groups of young people. It doesn't happen simply because one went to the same hght school as another person. There is a sort of magic about it. I've heard that children raised in Kibbutz situations have similar relationships. I love to see the children (now in their 20s, 30s and even 40s) come home for the All Night Dance Party ( a reunion gathering) once a year and enjoy one another's company.  I am glad to have lived in this place, this time, and to have been able to help to create the conventions of the home in which we all lived. 

Friday, November 22, 2013

In Dallas

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/vacayca/john-f-kennedy_b_4317387.html?just_reloaded=1

I was 13 when JFK was shot. It was one of the formative experiences of my life, as of so many others.  William and I were watching something on TV, which we had only recently been able to convince Irving to obtain (he had to build three antennas, one or each channel available, and he hated TV; he wrote an article about it at its inception titled "Where Does Television Belong?" I think it was published in Coronet magazine, but I need to check on that. In any case, he didn't think it belonged much of anywhere.

However,  we kids felt quite differently, so in Nov. 1963 we had finally finished installing a  black and white TV with wobbly reception.  One had to flip a switch to get ABC, as I recall, while NBC and CBS were on the same circuit. The antennae were made from wire and plywood-- Irving was ever inventive, and frugal.



On Nov. 22,  the programming was interrupted-- it could not have been anything very fascinating, but the novelty of having TV at all kept us in on a beautiful sunny day to see it-- by the announcement that John F. Kennedy had been shot in Dallas (a place we considered the same as the Deep South, and dangerous).  After a time, Walter Cronkite made his famous, moving, teary announcement that JFK was dead.

Irving came into the room as William and I yelled and exclaimed about it. "It's only a publicity stunt," he said. He could not bear to hear of anyone being hurt (in the 1980s, when a man he loathed, Ronald Reagan, was shot, he was upset and horrified: "Don't you realize that a human being has been  HURT?"

William, who was about 9 at the time, said scornfully, "Irving! It can't possibly be a publicity stunt. Don't tell us that. They'd never be able to keep it a secret!" 
Irving cried.
We watched the entire weekend, the funeral, all of it, Mrs. Kennedy's calm grief, like the heroine of a Greek tragedy... Irving and Barbara didn't like the militaristic, from their point of view maudlin funerary rites. and tried to get us to do something else. But we watched around the clock till cartoons sprang shockingly out of the TV screen on Monday morning. How, I wondered, could it possibly be over so quickly, and back to business as usual? Television was never as interesting again... or as real, at least till 9/11/2001.

I remembered October 1962 and the Cuban Missile Crisis when we had been in Florida. It was obvious from the way the adults acted, and from the news stories, that our survival in case of a nuclear war was extremely unlikely. (Though some very kind friends offered to let us share their bomb shelter, vagabonds though we were).  The great relief we all felt when the crisis had passed. The arts at the White House, celebrated there for the first time. The beauty of Mrs. Kennedy, a Leo, who even wrote to Irving (probably through a secretary) about his Hamlet in Modern English. I missed JFK and the world he brought to the presidency. I thought of the assassination of Lincoln, a century before... a very real presence to us because we traveled the battlefields of the Civil War each year on our trip to Florida and back.  

After 50 years, it is all still just as shocking-- the only other equally shocking event, and perhaps not even so much, because it was, in some way, so inevitable, was the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack.
I have lived in interesting times... I am glad to have lived and to go on living in the 20th and 21st centuries for many reasons, and in spite of all the violence and horror of these eras. Oddly, I could always see a kind of vision of the future up till the turn of the century-- but afterward, not as much. I am not sure any longer what the future will be like, but I hope for a growth of a civilized and peaceful way of life.
And in spite of everything, I'm glad that I lived in the era of JFK... RFK, Martin Luther King... and all those who were so gorily and abruptly terminated in the 1960s.
Also, I am so grateful for a life in the era of Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama. Pope Francis is shaping up to look like a beneficial person, too, though why not make women priests if for some odd reason they want to be?

Wednesday, August 28, 2013

Tagore Poem

Fireflies

My fancies are fireflies, —
Specks of living light
twinkling in the dark.

he voice of wayside pansies,
that do not attract the careless glance,
murmurs in these desultory lines.

In the drowsy dark caves of the mind
dreams build their nest with fragments
dropped from day's caravan.

Spring scatters the petals of flowers
that are not for the fruits of the future,
but for the moment's whim.

Joy freed from the bond of earth's slumber
rushes into numberless leaves,
and dances in the air for a day.

My words that are slight
my lightly dance upon time's waves
when my works havy with import have gone down.

Mind's underground moths
grow filmy wings
and take a farewell flight
in the sunset sky.

The butterfly counts not months but moments,
and has time enough.

My thoughts, like spark, ride on winged surprises,
carrying a single laughter.
The tree gazes in love at its own beautiful shadow
which yet it never can grasp.

Let my love, like sunlight, surround you
and yet give you illumined freedom.


One of Irving's greatest favorites...

Wednesday, August 21, 2013

HAPPY TIME AT THE ALL NIGHT DANCE COSTUME PARTY IN 2008

A NOTE FROM JAIME & JANELLE. ladybelle, i first went to quarry hill back in 2008 with my then-boyfriend (and best friend to this day!), MARTIN. he is a good friend of airon's, and so one hot august morning, we all took off from dumbo, destined for the promise land. i couldn't have dreamed up what i was about to live.... martin & i set up our tent of love on trevor's front lawn, and it rained for days and days it seemed, and unfortunately we didn't get to float down the river during the days, but hanging out in trev's living room and meeting all the good flowers was exactly where we were supposed to be, the rain growing beautiful everlasting friendships, quenching the hill's thirst for life, the hummingbirds spreading joy outside the window. there we all were, united by this place of magic, where the spirits still roam and the stars shine brighter, the FAMILY, the feeling of the revolution still present in every blade of grass, every petal, every leaf, every sweet pea pod. it forever changed my life, those days i spent on that hill, tucked away in nature, cleansing with the rain, dressed in a tie dyed tutu, feathers in my hair, love in my heart as vast as vermont. my twin sister- jaime, was back in canada at the time, which rarely happens- us being apart from each other. and so, she has heard my stories about the magic land, the people, the principles, the vegan pancakes for breakfast, and we have longed to be there ever since 2008! this is the year we will come, to the party, to celebrate life & truth & music & art & the highest purpose of living. i look so forward to seeing you all there, and i want you to know that almost daily i think about the beautiful existence of Quarry Hill. I am so grateful, and to your FATHER, Irving, bless him for creating himself and all of this. His vision and his life was such a gift to the universe, and i believe it continues to create a whole new world. THANK YOU. sending love to QH, always. love from canada, janelle (&jaime)
April 28, 2012 12:28 am
Very happy to hear you will come and love your story!
Thank you for your warm words of Irv. "all love through all infinity." -- Irving
That was the year my brother had died, so glad you could be with us!
April 28, 2012 9:29 am
yes, william had just passed when we arrived that summer. long live their spirits, see you this summer ladybelle! lots of love, always. xoxoxoxo
a few seconds ago
Thanks!

Wednesday, April 24, 2013

Famous BIrthdays-- Irving!

http://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/irving-fiske.html


Info on Irving, his life, birth, and death. Interestingly Rex Harrison was born the same day and died the same year, though I'm not sure if it was on April 25-- the full moon day this year-- when he died, as it was with Irving.

Irving has become quite famous on the Internet. Good.

-- Ladybelle

Friday, February 22, 2013

Scientology and its problems

http://mikemcclaughry.wordpress.com/2012/11/29/scientology-roots-chapter-thirty-suspicious-deaths-in-scientology/

Mentions Irving when he was called a "Squirrel" and declared Suppressive and Fair Game by Scientology in 1968.
He had utilized some Dianetics techniques with interest, seeing them as extensions of Freudian thought and Eastern religion; but following a series of aggressive moves against him (in his opinion and mine) in the mid-1960s, Irving decided never to have anything to do with "the Org" again. He also sued them for slander and libel for a number of statements they had made about him publicly.
He won a settlement in the case-- I believe the first person ever to do so.

It's a long story.   I always thought Dianetics sort of stupid, though a pleasaant enough game to play with ones parents when little "remember -- or imagine, as we usually said--a time when the sun was high in the sky,,,"   I didn't believe we had once been clams.
Even at age 4 or so, that was beyond my ability to suspend disbelief.


Irv also came to view the cost of Scientology processing as insanely expensive and a con game of the worst order. He felt that anyone could and ought to be able to use these ancient (plagiarized from Buddhism and other sources) techniques for free. 

PS -- I suppose I fall into the following  category--
"Anyone who has PT or recent connections with any of these people is under suspicion and the information regarding the person should be forwarded to Internal Security Bureau 4."
I think that Scientology has kept a rather  bleary eye on me for years, and periodically sends someone here to try to gain access to Irving's private papers.

George Bernard Shaw, His Religion & Values By Dayananda Pathak


George Bernard Shaw, His Religion & Values

 By Dayananda Pathak
 
The book lauding Irv's work.

Irving lauded as Blake/Shaw expert

http://books.google.com/books?id=8LYzJ0YrzWgC&pg=PA11&lpg=PA11&dq=irving+fiske+evil&source=bl&ots=R8C2w_0N_R&sig=g1NXFCP1cnQMttC40Kh8YqLb2oQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=RbwnUYvkOojn0gGRx4HAAQ&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=irving%20fiske%20evil&f=false


A writer's view that Irving Fiske's article on George Bernard Shaw's  Debt to William Blake is "the most important."


Irving Fiske's Poems of Truth and Beauty

Poems by Irving Fiske (two "Poems of Truth"--
Mothers"
"Mothers are a worthy institution /In every earthly nation.
If it wasn't for them there'd be a diminution/In the population."
"Sex"
"Sex is divided into two sections/that come together in several connections. Connections legal and illicit:/ If we didn't have sex, I bet we'd
miss it."

One "Poem of Beauty"

ODE TO A CHOCOLATE SODA

When I consider how my days are spent
In yearning for a liquid that's dark brown
Upon its sparkling bubbles all intent
In every chocolate soda stand in town,
I lift my glass again to drink it down,
While gloomy thoughts my unquiet soul derange
Of ordering a strawberry soda for a change.

But then the glass aglow with velvet sheen
Before my eyes recaptures old delight
Its cool and sudden touch all thoughts unclean
All imaginings unhallowed banish quite
As dark, oppressive skies of blackest night
Are banished by the morning's eastern hue--
To my old love I drink my love anew.

Like as the mists wind-borne towards heaven ascend,
So do the bubbles swirling upwards stream.
Each upon the other hastening to its end
In tiny bursts of splendor where the ice cream,
Chocolate, too, in flavor, fluffy as a dream,
Floating crowns the liquid, nectar for a king,
Fresh and sweet and cool, good like anything!

Ah, were mine the glory, mine the final power
With all the elements to do with as I please,
I'd make SUCH a chocolate soda, from all the seven seas,
To reach from Earth to Venus, from Venus back to Mars,
Cooled for my drinking by Heaven's frozen stars!
Since I am but mortal, slave to space and time,
I reach into my pocket, and fish out another dime."

Probably written in Greenwich Village in the 1940s...
(After John Keats)
By Irving Fiske

Sunday, October 28, 2012

Article mentioning QH in The Times of India

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ruminations/entry/the-verdant-republic-of-vermont-usa#write

A nice fellow who visited here some years back has returned to Vermont. He wrote about his adventures here then and now for an Indian newspaper.
I wish he had stopped by again-- maybe another time. I'd like to hear his memories of Irving and his experiences here then.

The comments on his article in the paper are very odd. Indians seem to have a lot of annoyance with one another and several attacked this writer in one way or another for his work and his thought.
I am not used to this level of nattering but every country is different...

Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Everything out of Nothing



God made everything out of nothing, but the nothingness shows through. - Paul Valéry
I love this quotation, a good thing, since it greets me from my desktop every day. I put it on my  blog site a while back and a “gadget” on my home page to take me to the blog. That seems to remember only this one saying, like a Zen koan repeated again and again.
The quote reminds me of the talks my father, Irving Fiske (writer, playwright, inventor, co-creator of Quarry Hill, Vermont's oldest alternative community, and "anti-guru"), presented each week in the mid-1960s at our storefront, the Gallery Gwen, on 4th Street in New York's East Village. (Or as Irving, scorning the "realtor's name" for the place, called it, the Lower East Side.) He loved speaking to groups, and he was good at it: vastly well read, vividly aware of the mood in the room, and funny as hell.
He was not, as some have said he must be, long-winded, though the talks could go on for a while including questions and discussion, or boring. He was not a tedious old man – he was about the same age I am now, come to think of it, 62. That did not seem old as he embodied it.
He looked well at that age, if a bit rotund; he was dignified, with wild white hair and a golden and silver mustache – he looked like, and sometimes people thought he was, Albert Einstein. They were both Pisceans, a fact that pleased Irving, whose minor at Cornell had been physics. He spoke about the connections between philosophy, poetry, religion, physics, psychology, and cosmology, among other things.
Irving was good at bringing into the room a sense that each person present was perfect and beautiful, and more – that each was in touch with all transcendent human experience, that of the Sufis, Buddhists, Hindus; the core of Christianity; the central warmth and love of learning, of the word and the Word, in Judaism. We read about – and Irving, sometimes with my assistance (I could remember quotations verbatim), spoke of – philosophical thought, of science and how it explains so much of the world. He liked to talk about the relationship between physics, in particular, and the religious/philosophical/spiritual experience that joins so many mystics and visionaries of this earth.
He would take the thought that all of us are Buddhas who are perhaps not yet awakened, go around the universe with it, and bring it back into the room full of people. They, or some of them at least, would often be aware of their own value for the first time – or the idea that it was not just all right to have fun, it might very well be one of the reasons they were here. It was a chance to see and to feel –to “get” the non-conceptual concept that each was born complete and in a state of “sweet delight,” capable of experiencing both the joyous nothingness of Zen Master Dogen and poet William Blake’s sensual human fire.
As I recall, Irv spoke on Wednesday or Thursday, and on Friday he would often bring a carload of people to Vermont. They came to visit our "country estate,” as Irving called it, and were sometimes dismayed to discover it was (however lovely) an old hill farm without plumbing or real running water.
I was always much more bothered by the reactions of the visitors to our tarpaper outhouse than Irving was. Those who were able to deal with using an outhouse for three days, might, Irving would say, stay “forever.” Some stayed for,  at least, a very long time. One man  we met through the Gallery chose to come  back to die here.
“The nothingness shows through.” I’d have liked to be able to show that quote to Irving. Since he died in 1990, this is a bit tricky, but one may hope he experienced something like this, the nothingness on the other side of everything, as he "passed away," as people say so carefully of death (even "Long Island Medium" Theresa Caputo is oddly cautious about saying "he died.") I have a sense that he had that universal awakening experience many times. Whether it always lasted, I don’t know (it seems to me that it’s possible to have mini-Satoris which last for a time and disappear-- though they never disappear entirely). I know he would have comprehended what Valéry was trying to convey, though Irving wouldn’t have bothered to allude to an external God.
I am not uncomfortable with the word God, as many people are. It seems to me to be the same thing whether Christian Traherne speaks of being "clothed with the heavens and crowned with the stars," or Mahayanist Milarepa sings one of his hundred thousand songs. At the very core and heart, one finds … what one finds. I have had the sense of encountering light, radiance, and joyful wisdom in all people and all existence. For someone else, there may be something else. Yet, may not all the experiences be based in the same thing?
“God appears and God is light to those poor souls who dwell in Night/ But does a human form display/ to those who dwell in realms of Day,” Blake says.
For his part, Valéry appears to be speaking of Sunyata, the Zen concept of "emptiness." No bleak or existential emptiness-- an open, smooth emptiness, as in still water or open sky. Looking for a long time into running water over stones or at a flower or a blade of grass like Whitman, one sees the form-- and the form is perfect, as evolution made it. But looking longer, one may see the “nothingness showing through.” The cells, the atoms, and beyond the smallest form… that something else, that nothingness, emptiness, is there: Sunyata in a wild flower.

Taking the time to pay attention, I am deeply appreciative of the beauty of this autumn. It is the first real autumn of my home --Vermont's-- gathering recovery from Tropical Storm Irene. (Things were still a bit torn up last year.)
According to an article in the local paper, various phenomena arisingfrom the storm and its floods has affected the sugar maples and the colors we are accustomed to seeing in New Eng land, especially Vermont. Climate change apparently has reached a point at which the first truly intense frost may no longer reliably arrive before the leaves fall. Those cold nights bring out the color, since the trees then stop making chlorophyll.
I need to look up a source for this, but have heard and read it several times: in eighty or a hundred years, we may have no more sugar maple trees in Vermont and New Hampshire due to global warming. I live in Central Vermont. Though I don't expect to be around when the maple trees are gone, it matters to me and to all New Englanders. And others, I hope.
All things are impermanent, as the Buddha said, and as Buddhists strive to remember. It is not hard for us, in Vermont, to realize the truth of this after the last year.  We're recovering, but permanency has flown like the wild geese, security vanished like the blown dandelion seeds of last spring, and a sense of safety that we had here in the heart of these seemingly everlasting hills may have gone forever.
Yet Vermont is rising from its many difficulties with determination and insistence on its own way of being. Calvin Coolidge perhaps had this quality in mind when he said that “If ever the spirit of liberty should vanish from the rest of the Union, it could be restored by the generous share held by the people in this brave little State of Vermont.”
The hills are still here, the trees are still beautiful, and if we look after the wonderful and special place in which we are fortunate enough to live, perhaps our children and grandchildren will be able to enjoy its glory too. If all the maples are gone, it won' t be the same-- and so we all must work for any possibility of their being preserved, locally and globally. If they vanish, though, I am sure that another tree of some kind will rise here because Vermont endures. In the emptiness, in the transience, the beauty of created form flows on and on through the Green Mountains, and through the moment we are in… this moment, this second, Valery’s nothingness can be seen.
Yes, this is something people have said before, but it’s different when one actually experiences it.
In whatever way one can, through meditation or simply walking every day through nature, it is worth looking for. The experience of nothingness in everything, of form in the formless and formlessness in form, will never leave you. As one Zen master, I think, said, it will be “one quarter turn of the head” away, and always available. All we need to do, as Aldous Huxley said, is wake up.

Friday, October 12, 2012

Another version of my thoughts on Paul Valery and Irving and so on...


Something I'm working on. -- Ladybelle Fiske
God made everything out of nothing, but the nothingness shows through. -- Paul Valery
I love this quotation, a good thing, since it greets me from my desktop every day. I put it on this blog site a while back and a “gadget” on my home page to take me to the blog.  That seems to remember only this one saying, like a Zen koan repeated again and again.
The quote reminds me of the talks Irving would present each week at our storefront, the Gallery Gwen, at 74 East 4th Street in the East Village, or Lower East Side of New York.  My father loved speaking to groups, and he was good at it: vastly well read, vividly aware of the mood in the room, and funny as hell.
He was not, as some have said he must be, long-winded, though the talks could go on for a while including questions and discussion, or boring. He was not a tedious old man-- he was about the same age I am now, come to think of it, sixty-two. That did not seem old as he embodied it.
He looked well at that age, if a bit rotund; he was dignified, with wild white hair and a golden and silver mustache-- he looked like, and sometimes people thought he was, Albert Einstein. They were both Pisceans, a fact that pleased Irving, whose minor at Cornell had been physics. He spoke about the connections between philosophy, poetry, religion, physics, psychology, and cosmology, among other things. Irving was good at bringing into the room a sense that each person present was perfect and beautiful, and more-- that each was in touch with all transcendent human experience, that of the Sufis, Buddhists, Hindus; the core of Christianity, the central warmth and love of learning, of the word and the Word, in Judaism. We read about-- and Irving, sometimes with my assistance (I could remember quotations verbatim) spoke of philosophical thought, of science and how it explains so much of the world. He liked to talk about the relationship between physics, in particular, and the religious/philosophical/spiritual experience that joins so many mystics and visionaries of this earth. He liked to talk about the "religion of no-religion."
He would take the thought that all of us are Buddhas who are perhaps not yet awakened, go around the universe with it, and bring it back into the room full of people. They, or some of them at least, would often be aware of their own value for the first time-- or the idea that it was not just all right to have fun, it might very well be one of the reasons they were here. It was a chance to see and to feel-- to “get” the non-conceptual concept that each was born complete and in a state of “sweet delight,” -- capable of experiencing both the joyous nothingness of Dogen and Blake’s sensual human fire.
As I recall, Irv spoke on Wednesday or Thursday, and on Friday he would bring a carload of people to Vermont. They came to visit our "country estate,” as Irving called it, and were sometimes dismayed to discover it was an old hill farm without plumbing or real running water. Those who were able to deal with using an outhouse for three days, might, Irving would say, stay “forever.” Some stayed almost forever… at least, a very long time, and at least one person we met through the Gallery chose to come back to stay as he was dying.
“The nothingness shows through.”
I’d have liked to be able to show that quote to Irving. Since he died in 1990, this is  a bit tricky, but one may hope he experienced something like this, the nothingness on the other side of everything, as he passed away, as people say so carefully of death. I feel that he had that universal awakening experience many times. Whether it always lasted, I don’t know (it seems to me that it’s possible to have mini-Satoris which last for a time and disappear-- though they never disappear entirely). I know he would have comprehended what Valery was trying to convey, though Irving wouldn’t have any need to allude to an external God.
 I am not uncomfortable with the word God, as many people are. It seems to me to be the same thing whether Christian Traherne speaks of being clothed with the heavens and crowned with the stars, or Mahayanist Milarepa sings one of his hundred thousand songs. At the very core and heart, one finds … what one finds. I have had the sense of encountering light, radiance, and joyful wisdom in all people and all existence. For someone else, there may be something else. Yet, may not all the experiences be based in the same thing?
After all,  “God appears and God is light to those poor souls who dwell in Night/ But does a human form display/ to those who dwell in realms of Day,” Blake says.  [1]
For his part, Valery appears to be speaking of Sunyata, the Zen concept of "emptiness." No bleak or existential emptiness-- an open, smooth emptiness, as in still water or open sky.  Looking for a long time into running water over stones or at a flower or a blade of grass like Whitman, one sees the form-- and the form is perfect, as evolution made it. But looking longer, one may see the “nothingness showing through.” The cells, the atoms, and beyond the smallest form… that something else, that nothingness, emptiness, is there: sunyata in a wild flower.
Taking the time to pay attention, I am deeply appreciative of the beauty of this autumn, the first real autumn of Vermont's growing recovery from Hurricane Irene. (Things were still a bit torn up last year.)
According to an article in the local paper, various phenomena arising from the storm and its floods has affected the sugar maples and the colors we are accustomed to seeing in Vermont. Climate change apparently has reached a point at which the first truly intense frost may no longer reliably arrive before the leaves fall. Those cold nights bring out the color, since the trees then stop making chlorophyll.
I need to look up a source for this, but have heard and read it several times: It is said that that in eighty or a hundred years, we may have no more sugar maple trees in Vermont and New Hampshire due to global warming.
All things are impermanent, as the Buddha said, and as Buddhists everywhere strive to remember. It is not hard for us, in Vermont, to realize the truth of this after the last year. Permanency has flown like the wild geese, security vanished like the blown dandelion seeds of last spring, and a sense of safety that we had here in the heart of these seemingly everlasting hills may have gone forever. Yet Vermont is rising from its many difficulties with determination and insistence on its own way of being.  Calvin Coolidge perhaps had this quality in mind when he said that “If ever the spirit of liberty should vanish from the rest of the Union, it could be restored by the generous share held by the people in this brave little State of Vermont.”
The hills are still here, the trees are still beautiful, and if we look after the wonderful and special place in which we are fortunate enough to live, perhaps our children and grandchildren will be able to enjoy its glory too. If all the maples are gone, it won' t be the same-- and so we all must try to insist on any possibility of their being preserved, locally and globally. If they vanish, though, I am sure that another tree of some kind will rise here because Vermont endures. In the emptiness, in the transience, the beauty of created form flows on and on through the Green Mountains, and through the moment we are in… this moment, this second, Valery’s nothingness can be seen.
Yes, this is something people have said before, but it’s different when one actually experiences it.
In whatever way one can, through meditation or simply walking every day through nature, it is worth looking for.  The experience of nothingness in everything, of form in the formless and formlessness in form, will never leave you. As one Zen master, I think, said, it will be “one quarter turn of the head” away, and always available. All we need to do, as Aldous Huxley said, is wake up.


[1] A friend of mine, Larrance Fingerhut, at my suggestion, did an amazing job of setting those words to “Canon in D Major” by Johann Pachelbel, years before most people had heard the Canon so much that they could no longer listen to it. Freshly heard, it makes a wonderful vehicle for Blake’s proud and certain words.

Friday, August 24, 2012

ART SPIEGELMAN IN VULTURE MAGAZINE (2008)

Prior to his somewhat less disapproving take on that "Vermont Commune" in METAMAUS (2011), Art, who seems to be embarrassed at times by his younger and to me, cheerier self, gave this interview to an online magazine with an apt title.

Though it was a while ago and I see in MetaMaus a slightly less unfriendly and unbending attitude towards Irving, me, and QH, I'd like to answer what he has to say here.
<You spent some time on a Vermont commune around then. Were you doing much drawing there?
What was I doing? A lot of fornication and a lot of drugs. I was drawing, but unlike certain cartoon peers, I couldn't control what meager talents I have while I was stoned. So there were occasional walks outside the decaying farmhouse, and occasional scribblings on pieces of paper and making very ornate, speedlike drawings, but it wasn't the work I'd really want to pass on to posterity.<

1. Art was not doing a lot of drugs, unless he wasn't telling me, the person he was closest to at that time, At a certain point he decided drugs just made him paranoid and interfered with his work, and gave up even smoking pot-- as far as I know,
As for "fornication," as Art knows this will hurt my feelings, for a good deal of this, he had with me-- and it was not just fornication but true and profound love... I have letters attesting to his love for me.
As for the other women on the place, some of them seemed to find Art rather amusing, others were fond of him, but all knew I loved and worshipped him, and I think that if they made love with him it was often because they knew how much I wanted him to be with us all.
2. The "decaying" farmhouse was over 200 years old and we had no money with which to fix it. Nonetheless, to my mind, it was a building of beauty and history and patterns of beauty, It was my home.
3.HIs work at the time was juvenilia, but it was good juvenilia. I loved some of it. Some contains my name, secretly hidden in the "speed" -like squiggles.

Our relationship was not a casual one. He and I also lived together in Binghamton, NY., Brooklyn, NY., New York, NY, and had plans to go to California together-- indeed, one day, perhaps, to have a child, or children, together. I am at work on a memoir in which I hope to tell some of these stories in more detail,
But though he says things that are far nastier about us than would seem to be called for considering all the years that have gone by (and our friendship, and that of Françoise Mouly and ourselves), until the 1990s, I want to say that I am still very proud of Art's success and genius-- which I saw in him when he was, I believe, 18 and I, 16 (1966) and more so in 1968 when we became lovers (we were already "Water Brothers."
That is the truth. He and Irving, too, had a competitive but respectful relationship, with many interests in common, such as beautiful young women--and as Art has admitted (MetaMaus pp 24-25), we were never short on those.
I would like to be friendly with Art and his family again, and still, ever the optimist--"the most gullible person I've ever met," Art called me at the age of 16 when I kept a vow to my own detriment-- I hope one day we will meet again.

http://www.vulture.com/2008/10/art_spiegelman_on_breakdowns_r.html

Saturday, November 5, 2011

MetaMaus and the advice Irving gave Vladek Spiegelman...

I have decided to delete this post for the time being. I saved the text and perhaps will re-post it at some point in the future.
I have no desire to invade anyone's privacy, nor to reveal things that properly belong to another. I do want to and plan to publish some of my book about my life soon, but there seems no reason to have this (however innocuous) information published, even in my blog, at this time.

Art Spiegelman's METAMAUS, on Page 25, mentions me as his hippie girlfriend, the daughter of "Irving Fiske, the Mr. Natural of the commune I was involved with.." Quarry Hill was never exactly a commune and it was not the only one we were involved with! But I will leave it at that for now.

Saturday, August 13, 2011

Irving is a Celebrity Now...

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Thursday, August 11, 2011